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Advanced RFA [BoS Rules]

Post by Admin on Fri Nov 18, 2011 5:11 pm

So here is my idea...

Here is my chart.

less than 1 year - UFA
1 full year - Can match with a 20% increase on Avg salary
2 full years - Even Match
***Home Town Discounts***
3 full years - 10% off avg salary
4 full years - 15% off avg salary
5-7 full years - 20% off avg salary

The RFA process will all be the same.

Max contracts void a home town discount

So basically what this chart is for is when the final bid ends, this will be what the matching team will finalize with the player if they decide to match.

It adds RFA rights to players that have spent 1 full year with a team but a penalty will be paid.
It adds home town discounts for players that have spent 3+ years on a team.

If we went ahead with something like this we would grant all traded players with 1 year RFA status under the new rule.

Share your thoughts... I would like to hear them.

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Re: Advanced RFA [BoS Rules]

Post by HELLFISH on Fri Nov 18, 2011 5:45 pm

i like, never was a fan of losing RFA when player trade within the last 2 years. the one year change is great!

also to be on same page are discount would be on wining bid (expect Max Deals)? so if i put a qualify bid and then league owner bid and lets say winning bid is 10M for 4 years, then i get to sign for 8.5M for 4 years if that player was on my current roster for the past 4 years.

if so i really like this proposal!

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Re: Advanced RFA [BoS Rules]

Post by Admin on Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:14 pm

you got it!

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Re: Advanced RFA [BoS Rules]

Post by Guest on Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:41 pm

this is PERFECT

nobody liked the 2 years anyway

1 full yr with the scale is what we shoulda had all along

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Re: Advanced RFA [BoS Rules]

Post by Guest on Sat Nov 19, 2011 8:06 am

let's get this up for vote!

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Re: Advanced RFA [BoS Rules]

Post by Admin on Sat Nov 19, 2011 9:36 am

i still got a couple things to think about and my brain is not registering properly today.

would this effect rookie contracts too or only players finishing MLB deals? I'm thinking MLB deals only.

Also, should the player be given less of a home town discount if he has won any of our awards? ie mvp, cy young.

im not 100% happy with the rule, yet. i love the direction it's going in.

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Re: Advanced RFA [BoS Rules]

Post by Guest on Tue Nov 22, 2011 2:08 am

this is gonna be good!!

me/bravo were talking about ways to get this better

any input from anyone would be nice too!!

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Re: Advanced RFA [BoS Rules]

Post by Admin on Tue Nov 22, 2011 11:34 am

So im thinking this only applies to players on mlb deals. Rookie contracts will stay with the 2 or more years with no discounts. We do have extensions for them.

I'll put it up for a vote tonight if I don't hear anything today.

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Re: Advanced RFA [BoS Rules]

Post by Doug on Tue Nov 22, 2011 12:29 pm

I wouldn't think very many MVP or Cy Young winners would give a home town discount. If your guy has a good enough season to win MVP or CY, that probably ups his value. Overall though, the idea makes sense, as long as it's not too much work for the commish.
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Re: Advanced RFA [BoS Rules]

Post by Guest on Tue Nov 22, 2011 1:05 pm

OOO good point doug

if a guy is coming off a BoS CY or BoS MVP then they are inelg for HTD (hometowndiscount) but u can still match

good point doug!

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Re: Advanced RFA [BoS Rules]

Post by Admin on Tue Nov 22, 2011 1:12 pm

My original thinking was to deduct a % off the htd. Then I said f it. But now that u bring it up again it does make sense. But shouldn't it be an award within 3 years or so? An award u lose 10% of the hometown??? This way players kept longer still get a little something.

A lot of these vets will be older too. Figure u have a player for 6 years on a rookie deal. Then u sign him to 4-7 years. He will be a 10-13 year vet looking for a home town discount. What kind of value will the say 35 year old have?

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Re: Advanced RFA [BoS Rules]

Post by HELLFISH on Tue Nov 22, 2011 2:31 pm

I like the HTD but i think that with each award won during your last contract you lose 5%. so for example Justin Verlander (Det-SP) on KC's roster, if he stay on that team he'll be in line for 15% HTD. but since he has won one BOS Award his discount could drop by 5% for each award won?

so the discount now would be HTD 10% which i still think would be fair? player still get extra and team owner still gets some discount?

I can't use Kemp on the example because he only been on my roster for a year. Also if if rookie deal player wins an award his next Arbitration Eligible year he gets 5% add to that year contract? but we will would not reduce his HTD when/if RFA is reached for that player ( am just thinking out loud now)

But i like where this is going guys.

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Re: Advanced RFA [BoS Rules]

Post by Admin on Tue Nov 22, 2011 3:10 pm

U got me thinkn Dan...

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Re: Advanced RFA [BoS Rules]

Post by HELLFISH on Tue Nov 22, 2011 4:09 pm

here's one more, if your team makes it into playoff with eligible 1 or 2 year RFA player, in that player last year prior to RFA. Team can get get 3% HTD and if you win title you'll get 5%? huh huh award teams that win?

so using this scale above
1 full year - Can match with a 20% increase on Avg salary
2 full years - Even Match

if you get into playoffs then
1 full year - Can match with a 17% increase on Avg salary
2 full years - HTD 3%

if you win it all
1 full year - Can match with a 15% increase on Avg salary
2 full years - HTD 5%

Again thinking out loud. I just feel if you're winning players will more likely want to stay.

Also you can only use HTD rule on one player per year. Period? not every player gives an HTD some play for the Money i.e. Domingo Ayala!!!

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Re: Advanced RFA [BoS Rules]

Post by Admin on Tue Nov 22, 2011 4:39 pm

so lets say the avg salary closes at $16M for domigo ayala....

and hes been on your team for 1 full year (want everyone to remember he still needs a qualifying RFA contract ie. 3 years, etc)

that brings him up to... 19.2M avg salary

17% would make him a $18.72M avg

UMMM..............

I think i really like this.

it should maybe play into the rest of the scale too...

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Re: Advanced RFA [BoS Rules]

Post by HELLFISH on Tue Nov 22, 2011 4:48 pm

Bravo wrote:

it should maybe play into the rest of the scale too...

brb

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Re: Advanced RFA [BoS Rules]

Post by Guest on Tue Nov 22, 2011 4:57 pm

IM DOWN

write up the full proposal and you got my YES vote =)

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Re: Advanced RFA [BoS Rules]

Post by Admin on Tue Nov 22, 2011 5:18 pm

ill work on it this weekend...

im really not in the mood tonight.

eventually guys are gonna need a course at a community college to play in this friggn league!

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Re: Advanced RFA [BoS Rules]

Post by Guest on Tue Nov 22, 2011 7:02 pm

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