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Wesley Matthews (POR- SG/SF) FA

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Post by Dalpsar Wed Oct 02, 2013 5:09 pm

Bids Remaining: 3
Age: 27
Contract Years: 3
Total Contract: $9M
Option: yes
Structure:
1) $3.75M 2) $3M 3) $2.25M 
4) $0M 5) $0M 6) $0M
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Post by Guest Thu Oct 03, 2013 4:46 pm

Bids Remaining: 1
Age: 27
Contract Years: 3
Total Contract: $9.9M
Option: yes
Structure:
1) $3.3M 2) $3.3M 3) $3.3M 
4) $0M 5) $0M 6) $0M

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Post by MistaDuMa Fri Oct 04, 2013 4:04 am

Bids Remaining: 1
Age: 27
Contract Years: 3
Total Contract: $12M
Option: yes
Structure:
1) $4M 2) $4M 3) $4M 
4) $0M 5) $0M 6) $0M
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Post by Dalpsar Fri Oct 04, 2013 7:18 am

Bids Remaining: 2
Age: 27
Contract Years: 3
Total Contract: $13.5M
Option: yes
Structure:
1) $5.5M 2) $4.5M 3) $3.5M 
4) $0M 5) $0M 6) $0M
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Post by thebarnes23 Fri Oct 04, 2013 6:29 pm

Bids Remaining: 2
Age: 27
Contract Years: 3
Total Contract: $16.25M
Option: n
Structure:
1) $7M 2) $5.25M 3) $4M
4) $0M 5) $0M 6) $0M
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Post by Guest Fri Oct 04, 2013 6:30 pm

illegal by 250k

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Post by thebarnes23 Fri Oct 04, 2013 6:32 pm

Why? Other average salary is 4.5, min 10% increase brings average to 4.95 min but my yearly is well over 5...?
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Post by Guest Fri Oct 04, 2013 6:34 pm

well, then u used a 2bidder and would have 1 bid left

but if u pay 250k more overall, it's only a 1bidder- which was what i thought u were tryin to do based on putting 2 bids remaining

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Post by thebarnes23 Fri Oct 04, 2013 6:38 pm

Ahhhh ok. Gotcha it is illegal. Will fix when I can log back in couple hours. Thanks
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Post by MistaDuMa Fri Oct 04, 2013 6:48 pm

Bids Remaining: 0
Age: 27
Contract Years: 4
Total Contract: $16.4M
Option: yes
Structure:
1) $4.4M 2) $4M 3) $4M 
4) $4
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Post by DmanofGod1 Fri Oct 04, 2013 7:33 pm

thebarnes23 wrote:Bids Remaining: 2
Age: 27
Contract Years: 3
Total Contract: $16.25M
Option: n
Structure:
1) $7M 2) $5.25M 3) $4M
4) $0M 5) $0M 6) $0M
25% Rule: The Max/Min from season to season in the contract cannot be more than 25% of the Avg salary. If 25% of the Avg salary is less than $1M, $1M may be used.


16.25/3 years = 5.416 average yearly salary

25% of 5.416 = 1.354

The first year of your contract = 7
The second year of your contract = 5.25
Difference = 1.75 mil

1.75 is more than 25 % which was 1.354

Illegal bid.

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Post by thebarnes23 Fri Oct 04, 2013 7:36 pm

yep got it. i was looking at year to year not average. ive been convinced by wesley matthews offers to move on to greener (and cheaper) pastures....
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Post by thebarnes23 Fri Oct 04, 2013 7:40 pm

being shrewd is no fun by the way......in the spirit of fun I wanted ellis and would have liked to just pay him $20m per and have him on my team lol. wish I could.
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Post by DmanofGod1 Fri Oct 04, 2013 7:42 pm

Well I'm sure you could trade him from JI.  I'm sure you told JI you wanted him bad and that's why he kept bidding on him.  So he could win him and then trade him to you lol. 

Razz

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Post by DmanofGod1 Fri Oct 04, 2013 7:43 pm

Cuz personally, I wouldn't touch Ellis with a 10 foot pole for 13 mil a year.

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Post by thebarnes23 Fri Oct 04, 2013 7:47 pm

yep. I also told JI I’ve already overpaid with my 2nd bid so doubt I would take on that salary with another, and he bid again, after using my final bid there was no way I was going over that amount. I’m sure it crossed his mind but he probably also knows me well enough to know as much as I like him the deal he has given him has made him untradeable to me.....this is now known as "the nash rule" between the two of us.....Nash is my favourite player ever and he did the same thing with him to me last offseason, then offered him to me later on....ask JI how that went down with that contract lol
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Post by Guest Fri Oct 04, 2013 7:49 pm

ha ha ha

there was honestly no malicious intent

i was seriously pissed that i didnt get him at 11.11 per year!! ive been wanting to give someone that as a contract and have it on my books!!

but, i was orig gonna roll over as much cash as i want n save for next yr, but that's just boring

id rather just get impact guys n adust later on.

always gotta put up a fight!!

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Post by thebarnes23 Fri Oct 04, 2013 7:50 pm

PS - I have no doubt Ellis will be one of the best fantasy SG in the league this year. But I would be paying for him for 4 years after that which he wont be anywhere enar what he will thsi coming season and the one afte...I love ellis though and JI will love him this seaosn I am sure.....gun in dallas.
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Post by HELLFISH Sat Oct 05, 2013 9:39 am

everyone waiting for next year. i say spend you cash now!

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Post by Dalpsar Sat Oct 05, 2013 2:39 pm

Bids Remaining: 1
Age: 27
Contract Years: 5
Total Contract: $25M
Option: no
Structure:
1) $7.5M 2) $6.25M 3) $5M
4) $3.75M 5) $2.5M
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Post by thebarnes23 Sat Oct 05, 2013 7:44 pm

Damn. Wes Mathews getting a lot of attention. I should of hit up Kevin Martin. That deals looking way sweet now.
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Post by Guest Sat Oct 05, 2013 11:55 pm

Bids Remaining: 0
Age: 27
Contract Years: 4
Total Contract: $25M
Option: no
Structure:
1) $7M 2) $6M 3) $6M
4) $6M

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Post by Dalpsar Sun Oct 06, 2013 6:35 am

Isn't this an illegal bid? His average salary needs to go up by 60% if taking off one year. My average salary bid was 5m. His is 6.25m, which is only a 25% increase.
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Post by HELLFISH Sun Oct 06, 2013 9:24 am

Deducting years - The total contract can be matched or

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Post by DmanofGod1 Sun Oct 06, 2013 11:44 am

Yes, its a legal bid.

Its in the first line of "deducting years" in the free agent bidding template to the right

Obviously a real free agent would rather have 25 mil in four years than 25 mil in five years

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Post by Guest Sun Oct 06, 2013 12:59 pm

Exactly!!

No one is gonna be like, uh, I'll only take less years if you up that avg more.

lolol

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Post by Guest Sun Oct 06, 2013 1:46 pm

But, you can always go 4/29 tho, bahahahahah

7.25 per for Matthews!!

Would be so lololol

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Post by Dalpsar Sun Oct 06, 2013 10:09 pm

If we are going to use the logic of "a player would obviously take $25m over 4 years over $25m over 5 years" then wouldn't that same player want $27m over 4 years?

This whole 60% increase thing doesn't make sense to me. Unless I am missing something here. Why not just say something like, "if decreasing contract by one year, the total contract must be the same amount OR higher". Plain, simple and logical.
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Post by thebarnes23 Sun Oct 06, 2013 10:29 pm

No matter how you guys wanna slice it... Your fighting over paying lots for WESLEY MATTHEW'S!!! Lol

Sorry couldn't resist. I'm not a big fan.
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Post by thebarnes23 Sun Oct 06, 2013 10:30 pm

Also I do understand the logic from both sides above and the ambiguity. I just don't think Wes is that good Wink
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