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Post by thebarnes23 on Tue Oct 03, 2017 3:09 am

Bids Remaining 3
Player Age 26
Pro Years Played 4
Contract Years 2
Total Contract $ $2M
Club Option Y
Contract Structure
1) $1M    2) $1M
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Re: Gorgui Dieng (MIN-C/PF)

Post by MistaDuMa on Tue Oct 03, 2017 6:30 pm

Bids Remaining 2
Player Age 26
Pro Years Played 4
Contract Years 2
Total Contract $ $4M
Club Option Y
Contract Structure
1) $2M    2) $2M
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Re: Gorgui Dieng (MIN-C/PF)

Post by DmanofGod1 on Tue Oct 03, 2017 6:35 pm

Bids Remaining 2
Player Age 26
Pro Years Played 4
Contract Years 3
Total Contract $ $9M
Club Option Y
Contract Structure
1) $3M    2) $3M  3) $3M

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Post by tazzouz on Tue Oct 03, 2017 11:30 pm

Bids Remaining 1
Player Age 26
Pro Years Played 4
Contract Years 3
Total Contract $ $9.9M
Club Option Y
Contract Structure
1) $3.3M    2) $3.3M  3) $3.3M

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Re: Gorgui Dieng (MIN-C/PF)

Post by MistaDuMa on Tue Oct 03, 2017 11:32 pm

@tazzouz wrote:Bids Remaining 2
Player Age 26
Pro Years Played 4
Contract Years 3
Total Contract $ $9.9M
Club Option Y
Contract Structure
1) $3.3M    2) $3.3M  3) $3.3M

You only have 1 bid remaining since it was under $1 total increase. 

Bidding Equal Years:When bidding under $10M per season: A bid may be a minimum of a 10% increase of the Avg salary. If the bid is under a $1m increase per season, 2 of the 3 bids will be charged. When bidding $10M per season or more: The bid must be a minimum of $1M per season more. 1 bid will be charged.
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Re: Gorgui Dieng (MIN-C/PF)

Post by tazzouz on Tue Oct 03, 2017 11:40 pm

Ok noted. Thanks

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Re: Gorgui Dieng (MIN-C/PF)

Post by itssamman on Wed Oct 04, 2017 12:03 am

Tazz bid is legal, I've fixed  his bid

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Re: Gorgui Dieng (MIN-C/PF)

Post by DmanofGod1 on Wed Oct 04, 2017 9:20 am

Bids Remaining 1
Player Age 26
Pro Years Played 4
Contract Years 4
Total Contract $ $16M
Club Option Y
Contract Structure
1) $4M   2) $4M  3) $4M  4) $4M

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Post by MistaDuMa on Wed Oct 04, 2017 7:03 pm

Bids Remaining 1
Player Age 26
Pro Years Played 4
Contract Years 5
Total Contract $ $25M
Club Option Y
Contract Structure
1) $5M   2) $5M  3) $5M  4) $5M
5) $5M
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Re: Gorgui Dieng (MIN-C/PF)

Post by DmanofGod1 on Thu Oct 05, 2017 3:02 am

Bids Remaining: 0
Player Age 26
Pro Years Played 4
Contract Years 4
Total Contract $ $25M
Club Option: N
Contract Structure
1) $6.25M   2) $6.25M  3) $6.25M  4) $6.25M
5) $M

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Re: Gorgui Dieng (MIN-C/PF)

Post by tazzouz on Thu Oct 05, 2017 6:28 am

Doesn't the shorter contract (one year shorter) need to be $8 per now? 1 year reduction has a 60% increase annually, right?

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Post by itssamman on Thu Oct 05, 2017 7:26 am

@tazzouz wrote:Doesn't the shorter contract (one year shorter) need to be $8 per now? 1 year reduction has a 60% increase annually, right?
Yes

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Re: Gorgui Dieng (MIN-C/PF)

Post by dboy77_2000 on Thu Oct 05, 2017 7:39 am

Bids Remaining 2
Player Age 26
Pro Years Played 4
Contract Years 5
Total Contract $ $30M
Club Option Y
Contract Structure
1) $6M   2) $6M  3) $6M  4) $6M
5) $6M

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Re: Gorgui Dieng (MIN-C/PF)

Post by DmanofGod1 on Thu Oct 05, 2017 8:52 am

I thought 25 mil for 4 years was a legal bid for a previous bid of 25 mil over 5 years.

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Re: Gorgui Dieng (MIN-C/PF)

Post by dboy77_2000 on Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:00 am

I will retract my bid if Akron's bid can be updated/fixed.

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Re: Gorgui Dieng (MIN-C/PF)

Post by dboy77_2000 on Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:09 am

I would like to retract my bid.  I didn't realize illegal bids do not count as bids, and I had a previous agreement with Akron that I need to honor.

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Re: Gorgui Dieng (MIN-C/PF)

Post by DmanofGod1 on Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:14 am

We will let Sam rule.  I believe my bid is illegal though legal in all other leagues (wish rules were same lol... I get mixed up).  

Not sure you can retract bids so it's fine.  Sam will determine what to do here.  If Havana has the legal bid and he can't retract it, it's all good.

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Post by itssamman on Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:22 am

@DmanofGod1 wrote:We will let Sam rule.  I believe my bid is illegal though legal in all other leagues (wish rules were same lol... I get mixed up).  

Not sure you can retract bids so it's fine.  Sam will determine what to do here.  If Havana has the legal bid and he can't retract it, it's all good.
Yeah, you can't really retract bids. Akron's bid was illegal, and Havanas bid was a legal one. 

I'm going to rule that Havana's latest bid is legal.

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Re: Gorgui Dieng (MIN-C/PF)

Post by DmanofGod1 on Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:29 am

Fair enough. 

I know it's the rules but not sure why a player would refuse the same amount of money for less years.  

It's why it's legal in the other leagues.  But that's a topic for another day.

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Re: Gorgui Dieng (MIN-C/PF)

Post by dboy77_2000 on Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:38 am

@itssamman wrote:
@DmanofGod1 wrote:We will let Sam rule.  I believe my bid is illegal though legal in all other leagues (wish rules were same lol... I get mixed up).  

Not sure you can retract bids so it's fine.  Sam will determine what to do here.  If Havana has the legal bid and he can't retract it, it's all good.
Yeah, you can't really retract bids. Akron's bid was illegal, and Havanas bid was a legal one. 

I'm going to rule that Havana's latest bid is legal.
 Fine by me as long as it's fine by Akron.

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Re: Gorgui Dieng (MIN-C/PF)

Post by DmanofGod1 on Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:40 am

all good, let's move on

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Re: Gorgui Dieng (MIN-C/PF)

Post by HELLFISH on Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:33 am

DmanofGod1Fair enough. 

I know it's the rules but not sure why a player would refuse the same amount of money for less years.  

It's why it's legal in the other leagues.  But that's a topic for another day.
Reducing Years: Teams can reduce a Max of 2 years off the current bid. Teams can match the current total contract with less years or use the following formula:When reducing the current bid by 1 year, the players avg salary per year must increase 60% or more. When reducing the current bid by 2 years, the players avg salary per year must increase 75% or more.

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Re: Gorgui Dieng (MIN-C/PF)

Post by DmanofGod1 on Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:34 am

oh crap...yea it is legal!

It's in the hoops rule book!

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Re: Gorgui Dieng (MIN-C/PF)

Post by HELLFISH on Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:35 am

@DmanofGod1 wrote:Bids Remaining: 0
Player Age 26
Pro Years Played 4
Contract Years 4
Total Contract $ $25M
Club Option: N
Contract Structure
1) $6.25M   2) $6.25M  3) $6.25M  4) $6.25M
5) $M
this bid is good? 
less year same total contract?

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Re: Gorgui Dieng (MIN-C/PF)

Post by DmanofGod1 on Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:38 am

This is a mess.

Calling my bid illegal is what made Havanna bid and now his bid is still the legal one I believe.

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Post by HELLFISH on Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:43 am

@DmanofGod1 wrote:This is a mess.

Calling my bid illegal is what made Havanna bid and now his bid is still the legal one I believe.
well tech, either way Hav has a legal bid.
and was place prior to your 24 hour expiring. 

so you can always go for the 4 year @ 30M Total.

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Re: Gorgui Dieng (MIN-C/PF)

Post by HELLFISH on Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:45 am

@dboy77_2000 wrote:I would like to retract my bid.  I didn't realize illegal bids do not count as bids, and I had a previous agreement with Akron that I need to honor.
what was the agreement? side deals are No Bueno!

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Re: Gorgui Dieng (MIN-C/PF)

Post by DmanofGod1 on Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:46 am

yea, havanna is the legal bid still

It's great when our commissioners don't know the rules  Razz

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Re: Gorgui Dieng (MIN-C/PF)

Post by MistaDuMa on Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:56 am

I mean... he's technically following the rule to the T but it's rule that doesn't make sense all the time.

for example

7.5/7.5/7.5/7.5 would be technically an invalid big since it's not 160% of $5m even though it's more money and less years.

This is definitely something we need to address.
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Re: Gorgui Dieng (MIN-C/PF)

Post by DmanofGod1 on Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:58 am

"Team can match the total contract with less year"

1)  Is to the right in "reducing year"
2)  Also in the hoops rule book under "free agency-reducing year"

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