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Oakland/NY
Oakland gets
Dwayne Wade 20/20/20/20
Yao Ming 3/3/3/3
2.5mil
NY gets
Paul Pierce 12.5/12.5
Wilson Chandler 3/3/3/3/(4)
Derrick Favors 2/2/2.2/2.75 (last 2 years are options)
Oakland 1st round pick
Dwayne Wade 20/20/20/20
Yao Ming 3/3/3/3
2.5mil
NY gets
Paul Pierce 12.5/12.5
Wilson Chandler 3/3/3/3/(4)
Derrick Favors 2/2/2.2/2.75 (last 2 years are options)
Oakland 1st round pick
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Re: Oakland/NY
After discussing with all the members of the TC, we have decided against passing this trade forward.
As you pointed out the pick was for the money, so looking forward the trade goes down as this.
Wade, Yao for Pierce, Chandler, Favors.
Looking at it value-wise, there is no way pierce, chandler, favors is enough to net wade and yao.
Favors is unproven, could be a star, yet we have no idea yet.
Pierce is past his prime and his stats will be declining as time progresses.
Unless Chandler is viewed as a future All-Star, the net worth of value here should not net Wade and Yao.
As you pointed out the pick was for the money, so looking forward the trade goes down as this.
Wade, Yao for Pierce, Chandler, Favors.
Looking at it value-wise, there is no way pierce, chandler, favors is enough to net wade and yao.
Favors is unproven, could be a star, yet we have no idea yet.
Pierce is past his prime and his stats will be declining as time progresses.
Unless Chandler is viewed as a future All-Star, the net worth of value here should not net Wade and Yao.
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itssamman- Premium Member
Re: Oakland/NY
well, really the pick was half for yao and half for the money, don't know if that changes minds cause I would never give away a first for just 2.5mil, not sure if this can factor in but just an explination.
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Re: Oakland/NY
Kirk hinrich is being added to this deal going to NY contract is 1yr 1mil I believe
On my phone so not gonna post the entire deal over again I think this should work
On my phone so not gonna post the entire deal over again I think this should work
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Re: Oakland/NY
his explanation doesnt make sense either as he had agreed to deal okafor for caron while yao trade was pending still... odd
altho, for legality purposes, he didnt really say accept on this re-work, but, it is poop nonetheless
altho, for legality purposes, he didnt really say accept on this re-work, but, it is poop nonetheless
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Re: Oakland/NY
and lol, i said shi-tty but poop came up
bravo put a no cuss thing in the forum! hahaha
bravo put a no cuss thing in the forum! hahaha
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itssamman- Premium Member
Re: Oakland/NY
As u can see he gave a reason why he doesn't want it he never said he didn't agree to it kid is gone if this trade isn't looked at by the TC. Can't be doin BS like this
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Re: Oakland/NY
he could have agreed when you were talking to him on aim or wherever else.
if its not on this post that he agreed its not a valid trade, simple as that.
the TC does not have to review the trade if he didnt agree on here.
if its not on this post that he agreed its not a valid trade, simple as that.
the TC does not have to review the trade if he didnt agree on here.
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itssamman- Premium Member
Re: Oakland/NY
Ill chat with JB about it if the conclusion to this is that the guy stays and trade doesn't get reviewed I'm out. No point in wasting my time just for things to go back the original way I have his text saying he was gonna get on and agree so that should be enough
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Re: Oakland/NY
id give him a pass just this once cuz the kid is new to the league and prolly doesnt understand the decorum of it all
altho, i do say its crap that he did u dirty like that
altho, i do say its crap that he did u dirty like that
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Re: Oakland/NY
If this is something like yahoo you push accept trade and you can't take it back which is exactly what he's doing he gets away with it then ill do it sometime down the road and so will another person and I don't want to deal with this poop again and I know no one else does either
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Re: Oakland/NY
well, that part is true..
my initial thoughts were to make him stand by his acceptance, where it was posted, but i think jb addressed this when something else happened with kc/orl before. wish i knew where
im sure jb will have a proper resolution to this that is fair for all parties
my initial thoughts were to make him stand by his acceptance, where it was posted, but i think jb addressed this when something else happened with kc/orl before. wish i knew where
im sure jb will have a proper resolution to this that is fair for all parties
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Re: Oakland/NY
My two cent if Mike has the AIM of him telling you yes, then i agree with mike there no room in the league for this. It make mike look like he is being shading when he was only trying to fix trade for a pass. Now if NY had 2nd thoughts and AIM mike back after you posted thats is another thing, but for NY to come here and say that he is cancelling the deal after he accepted it over AIM.
Am on OAK side on this one. I for one have canceled deals with mike in the past but i cancelled then prior to any post. Yeah mike was pissed with me, but i had second thoughts and just did not want to deal.
JI, there should be no PASS cause he is new, not for this. if it was a rule mistake maybe but for an agreement between to owners. the forum should not always the be all end all, but once an agreement is made by what is an important arm of our league ie. text, IM, PM that should be it! then we come here to post.
Am on OAK side on this one. I for one have canceled deals with mike in the past but i cancelled then prior to any post. Yeah mike was pissed with me, but i had second thoughts and just did not want to deal.
JI, there should be no PASS cause he is new, not for this. if it was a rule mistake maybe but for an agreement between to owners. the forum should not always the be all end all, but once an agreement is made by what is an important arm of our league ie. text, IM, PM that should be it! then we come here to post.
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HELLFISH- Premium Member
Re: Oakland/NY
pretty valid reasoning, hellfish
like i said, my initial thoughts were that too...
just think, if a pass is allowed, oak shouldnt get too mad or quit, cuz the kid is new and well, when people are new, sometimes things like this can happen
i totally understand mike being pissed tho, as i would be too
like i said, my initial thoughts were that too...
just think, if a pass is allowed, oak shouldnt get too mad or quit, cuz the kid is new and well, when people are new, sometimes things like this can happen
i totally understand mike being pissed tho, as i would be too
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Re: Oakland/NY
I'm going to talk to both Mike and Gary today. As far as I'm concerned by leagues rules, a deal is not a deal until everyone involved in the trade has agreed on the forum. If there was some kind of virtual hand shake thru some form of texting, well... that's not cool. I'm not sure if it's grounds for removal but it's definitely not gentleman like, being a gentleman's game and all...
Like I said, I'm going to talk to both guys today. I need to hear both sides of the story.
Like I said, I'm going to talk to both guys today. I need to hear both sides of the story.
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Re: Oakland/NY
Trade changed
Oak gets:
Deron 15/15/15/15
yao 3/3/3/3
Azubuike 3/3/3
1mil
NY gets
Paul Pierce 12.5/12.5
Duncan 7/8/10
Chandler 3/3/3/3/(4)
Favors 2/2/2.2/2.75
Oak 1st
Oak gets:
Deron 15/15/15/15
yao 3/3/3/3
Azubuike 3/3/3
1mil
NY gets
Paul Pierce 12.5/12.5
Duncan 7/8/10
Chandler 3/3/3/3/(4)
Favors 2/2/2.2/2.75
Oak 1st
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Re: Oakland/NY
mavwar53 wrote:Trade changed
Oak gets:
Deron 15/15/15/15
yao 3/3/3/3
Azubuike 3/3/3
1mil
NY gets
Paul Pierce 12.5/12.5
Duncan 7/8/10
Chandler 3/3/3/3/(4)
Favors 2/2/2.2/2.75
Oak 1st
accpet
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Re: Oakland/NY
From My understanding Duncan can not be traded because he was a RFA sign over the summer, Both bravo and I have been updating the contract page with a note beside the RFA's from this summer to remind you guys of that fact. Duncan is on my list to update tonight. Mike if you look at your page you will see i updated Dirk last night and been working on this and will complete the list by tonight.
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HELLFISH- Premium Member
Re: Oakland/NY
oh bleep, thats right...
no wait, only RFA MATCHES are subject to jan 1
did anyone bid on duncan? thought oak got him without anyone bidding
no wait, only RFA MATCHES are subject to jan 1
did anyone bid on duncan? thought oak got him without anyone bidding
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Re: Oakland/NY
He was never offered anything except from me, doesn't that mean I can deal him
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Re: Oakland/NY
from my understanding, if u match a guy, u keep him til jan 1
since he bid and never had to match, could deal him whenever
since he bid and never had to match, could deal him whenever
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