One owner needed (FCC)

Prague has switched jobs and wont have nearly as much time for Fantasy hockey this year so we are looking for a replacement owner to take over his team.

He has a very very solid team. I wanted to give everyone on forums the opportunity to take his spot before I go asking around. I do have a buddy at work that is really into hockey and would be a good addition if no one on here would like to take over.

Thanks,



PS. Free Agency will be on pause until we can get a new owner in and quickly acclimated.

surprise, surprise. I was already recruiting because we knew this was going to happen but I haven't found anyone good.

I think we need to establish a rule about backloaded contracts before UFA as well.  What he did is extremely lame.

agreed, whoever takes over that team has work to do!!

yea we knew when he was backloading all those contracts this was gonna happen

just a real douche

we can discuss some relief options for the new manager to help balance him out?

But that is up to everyone

I had some ideas for how to do that but the new owner will have to acknowledge that we all crowned Prague champion and lost a year ourselves because of it..... but if we can't sell the team thats not good either.

What kind of relief options are you thinking?

I'm debating about how to assist because I want the players to get market value and not be on a super discount to the new team, so for some of the more heavily back loaded deals we could average the salary off and give the new owner the option to void the last year or two of the deal?

that way they are still paying market value, allow themselves to not be locked into a "bad contract" for as long, and get some of those guys rotating back into FA in two years or so.

Anyone else got some ideas?

I agree that if we give any sort of "relief" that it needs to be in the some way that keeps their contract at market value such as leveling of some deals to a more normal structure.

As Prague was loading his team up with back-loaded contracts last off-season one of the only things that stopped me from getting too mad was the fact that he would have to pay for it eventually so even though the new owner will suffer from Prague's mistakes it isn't fair to the rest of the league if there is too much relief since everyone knew it would be a long shot to beat him last year because of all the back-loading.

yeah, I was thinking something similar. Dropping the last year of 1 or 2 guys and allowing some restructures of contracts so the team is slightly getting better rather than more difficult as time goes on. I haven't put a ton of thought into the specifics yet but guys like pavelski wouldn't look so bad if they were 7.5 for 4 years.


If we can't find an owner I was thinking we could leave it a ghost team but front load all contracts and after FA sign the top ranked FAs at .5 to fill out the roster and then I'll just set the lineup once a week and by next year it will look more promising. It's still a good team this year though so we should be able to find someone.

I like the thought of allowing restructuring. possibly adding him another buyout this year and next..... but not allowing him to cut off years...

we could just restructure and level off all the contracts and give the new owner the ability to remove 2 or 3 contracts to get him back under the cap

I think they should be able to restructure 2 contracts.  I am not a fan of anything more than that.  They still have buyouts they could use in the future for some of the backloaded cotnracts. 

I know when I took over my team, there were several bad contacts (not backloaded though) and I had to work my way around them, traded some, buried some, and buyout the rest (still caring a 2.5 hit from a buyout).

DmanofGod1 wrote:we could just restructure and level off all the contracts and give the new owner the ability to remove 2 or 3 contracts to get him back under the cap

I think removing contracts is a bit too much.  

Looking at his team, he has 3 really bad contacts, Brodie, Keith and Pavelski.  If he was able to restructure those 3, he should be fine.  His cap might be tight this year, but he still has a really good team.  Good teams cost cap.

OrganizedConfusion5 wrote:

I think removing contracts is a bit too much.  

Looking at his team, he has 3 really bad contacts, Brodie, Keith and Pavelski.  If he was able to restructure those 3, he should be fine.  His cap might be tight this year, but he still has a really good team.  Good teams cost cap.

...yeah what he said

or we could just void those contracts and make them free agents again to everyone...

he loses the players

Slow day. I restructured Brodie, Pavelski and Keith to average hit, and bought out Erik Johnson and Jagr (he hasnt reitred yet) 


   

			2018	2019	2020	2021	2022	2023
Name	Position	RFA	Salary	Salary	Salary	Salary	Salary	Salary
Derek Stepan	C	y	4.1
Richard Rakell	C/LW	y	0.688
Joe Pavelski	C/RW	y	7.34	7.34	7.34	7.34	7.34
Chris Kreider	LW	y	3.5	4	4.5	5.5
Jamie Benn	LW	y	10	10	10	10
Evander Kane	LW	y	4.35	5.6	6.85
Jonathan Drouin	LW/RW	y	1.375
Alexander Radulov	RW	y	3.5	4	4.5	5.5
Kevin Fiala	LW/RW	y	0.5	0.55	0.688
Brent Seabrook	D	y	4.3	4.3
Dion Phaneuf	D	y	2.345
Ryan McDonagh	D	y	2.5	3.5	4.5
Duncan Keith	D	y	5.5	5.5	5.5	5.5	5.5
TJ Brodie	D	y	5.5	5.5	5.5	5.5	5.5
Dmitry Orlov	D	n	0.5
Ben Bishop	G	y	7	7	7
Devan Dubnyk	G	y	5	5	5	5
Roberto Luongo	G	y	3	3.5	3.5
Nick Ritchie	LW	y	0.5	0.55	0.688
Ondrej Palat	LW	y	3.5	4.5
Ian Cole	D	n	0.5
Michael Matheson	D	y	0.5	0.55	0.688
Contract Buyouts and Retained Salary
Erik Johnson	D	x	1.5
Jaromir Jagr	RW	x	1.25	1.25
			78.748	71.39	66.254	44.34	18.34	0
			11.252	18.61	23.746	45.66	71.66	90

That gives him 11.252 in cap space along with 22 man roster that is still one of the better/best teams in the league.  He still has options to trade away players such as Kane and Bishop, among others.  Plus he has assets to trade away salary, like I had to, and a few other owners had to, when they came into the league.

yeah, thats about what I had in mind. Keep the younger players back loaded like you did. This is not any worse than what the rest of us started with.

johnscrn wrote:yeah, thats about what I had in mind. Keep the younger players back loaded like you did. This is not any worse than what the rest of us started with.

Honestly, I think its better than most.  Even that Keith contract doesn't look bad when he is on the roster for the average cap of remaining years.

The more I look at it the more I think it is to generous.... I take back any mention of removing years. 

since it is a "slow day" you should now propose a back loaded contract rule in the rule suggestion section to prevent this in the future.

Hey everyone. 

Is this something we can discuss a bit? 

I certainly think that leveling out Pavelski/Keith/Brodie is a fair way to help me out a bit. I don't think it's necessary to cut off years. Everyone has bad contracts, and I'm cool with that. I'm probably going to be shopping a lot of my team anyway (see: E. Kane) and leveling things out would help me retool so that I can make this my team instead of whatever Prague left me with. 

Having said that, you guys have been here & are experienced with cap leagues, so you know what's best for the league. Just wanted to get my two cents in and keep this team competitive when the backloaded contracts kick up.

I definitely appreciate you all's head start on this conversation!

I'm fine with whatever everyone thinks is best for the league.

If everyone else is cool with it I like the idea of just restructuring Brodie, Keith and Pavelski to avg. salary as proposed earlier in the thread..

No one seemed to have any objections.
We are keeping market value and not removing years of the deals.

I think its fair, and the best option given the circumstance.

agreed..........

I'll process it tomorrow.